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    外贸连先生

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    外贸连
    被骗货款的事时时有,前段时间又有连粉发现邮箱被盗,所幸发现及时没有造成损失。也经常看到有朋友、网友说被盗的事,好像每次就以金额不多、追不回来、不知如何处理等为由就此放过黑客不了了之。前两天刚好看到一同行发的贴子,真真佩服,拿来借鉴一下,万一真碰上了,大家除了咬牙切齿之外,还有办法追回货款,不要再让骗子以为我们外贸人就是好欺负:

    故事说是在2012年,那时要出差去印度,PI给客户付款之后就让业务员催了一次,客户确认说汇了。大概距离客户汇款1周之后,业务员说还没有收到。按往常客户汇出到到账一般3-4天。于是我跟业务员说,跟客户要水单,让财务查下是不是信息有误入不了帐。就是这一查真的有问题。客户的钱是汇了,并且汇了一周,但不是我们的账户!

    马上和客户联系,客户说:你们自己发邮件给我,说之前的账户不能用,临时换了账号!客户还附了往来邮件,我们发现那些邮件确实是从业务员的邮箱发出,但是说话的习惯却不是业务员。再查业务员的邮箱,骗子发来的邮件地址和客户只有一个字母的差别!问题查出来了,一定是骗子攻破了业务员的邮箱,伪装成业务员和客户联系,改了PI信息。

    那晚我一夜没睡,反复看骗子的邮件,看改过的PI和汇款水单。开始的时候,我试着找出骗子的发件IP地址,查出来美国一个地址。准备第二天报警,但是最后证明那是一个代理服务器的虚拟IP,根本追不到骗子,失败了!

    然后我发现了个问题。骗子修改过PI上显示收款公司是一个香港注册的公司,收款银行是香港汇丰的账户。然后我给汇丰客服打电话,告诉客服汇丰的一个账号户名的骗了钱等等。客服说,如果我们有相关证据可以提交司法机构,走司法程序,只有法院有权利冻结客户账户里的资金。

    事情到这一步基本上意味着被骗成功了,但是我不死心。我记得以前听一个朋友说过,香港政府网站付费可以查出公司注册信息,这一查还真查出了注册这个收款公司的法人以及TA的身份证号码,发现是个中国人。身份证号码查出是在湖南某地。

    于是给某地的派出所打电话,我说我现在印度孟买国际机场捡到一只钱包,里面有卡、身份证和很多现金,但是没有失主的联系方式。我说失主肯定很着急,在他国丢了这么重要的东西,让派出所帮我查下失主的户籍登记信息里有没有电话号码。然后,他们果然报给我一串手机号码,太好了!知道号码之后,我没有马上打电话,我在想怎么让TA把钱拿回来。

    想了一番之后,我拨了那串号码,一个女人接了电话。接通后我直接叫她的名字,报她身份证号码。我说某某派出所给我你的号码,让我先给你打个电话协商。开始的时候她否认有这么笔钱,说到后来说自己不知道情况,需要查下。我说我有水单,我能找到你,就能拿到你的银行对账单。我不管你是不是无辜,反正钱在你账户里,如果你不还回来,我只好和派出所说我们协商不成功。反复磨,到第三天的时候她把钱退回了客户账户!

    至此,一笔被认为不可能拿回来的钱,就这么回来了。

    看完故事是不是很想为主人翁点赞,虽然主角说自己是幸运,但阿连觉得不是幸运,是机智。现实中我们有多少人能运用到我们经常用的方法去处理呢?只是都听别人说追不回来的就由此放弃的人不在少数,这也是为什么越来越多黑客这么如此大胆继续横行,阿连用这个案例总结一下:

    1、收款期间需要定时跟进:查款项的进度,客户汇款后需要第一时间问客户拿汇款水单。我方财务不定时查款式进度。

    2、如发现有可疑时,发挥你的柯南精神,尝试在被盗邮箱中寻找一点蛛丝马迹。

    3、一般黑客收款都是跟我们一样,需要提供收款信息给客户,从收款信息中得到资料更真实可用。

    4、发挥外贸人的搜索精神,把掌握到的资料利用一切方法把黑客的资料削出来,如文中:查黑客的注册信息,无论香港还是中国,只要是注册的公司就会查得到这家公司的法人。也只有是注册的公司才有权在银行开通公司帐户。阿连在工商局网站上剪的图:

    图片:图片1.jpg



    5、找到法人就是想办法找联系号码了,除了主人翁的方法,我们还可以用我们平时找关键人物的方法去找出黑客的号码。别忘了,在中国办事是很多地方都需要留姓名、身份证和联系号码的。

    所有资料齐全就得看你演帝般的表现了,同行们再有这种情况,我们就用这种方法让黑客把钱吐出来。

    外贸连
    There is always the case that the payment was cheated. A while ago a fan found his email was stolen, but fortunately they found in time, causing no losses. I also heard that some friends or netizens were stolen but unluckily let hackers go away every time as the reasons like the amount is small, hard to get it back or do not understand how to deal with it etc. Just two days ago, I read an article by a colleague which was impressive. So we can learn from it in this case we can get the payment back, and we can not be cheated by such liars.

    In 2012, at that time on a business trip to India, the salesman pushed the customer to give the deposit after I sent PI to the customer and the customer confirmed that he had remitted. About a week after the remittance, the salesman said we hadn't received the deposit. Historically, it takes 3-4 days from the remittances to the account. Then I asked the salesman to ask the customer for the bank receipt, and let the financial check whether the information is incorrect. There was really some problems after checking. The customer had remitted for a week, but it's not our account!

    We connected with the customer at once, and he said, "You sent me an email, saying that the account can't use and temporary changed another account." The customer also enclosed the emails exchange between himself and the "salesman", and we found those emails indeed sent from the salesman but the speaking habit was different from the salesman. Then we checked the salesman's mailbox and found that the email address was only one letter different from the cheater's. The problem had been identified that the cheater hacked the salesman's mailbox and then disguised as a salesman to connect with the customer and revised the PI.

    That night I was up all night and re-read the cheater's email, the revised PI and the Bank slip many times. At the beginning, I tried to find out the IP of the cheater and it was an IP from the U.S.A. I prepared to call the police next day but at last it was proved that it was a virtual IP of proxy serve, which could not chase the cheater. It failed!

    Then I found out that the collecting company on the revised PI was the company registered in Hong Kong, and the collecting bank is HSBC account in HK. Then I called HSBC customer service, and told I was cheated by an HSBC account. But the service said if we had the evidence to submit the judiciary, we could be on the judicial procedure, and only the court had the right to freeze the customers'account.

    It basically meant I was cheated successfully, but I didn't lose heart. I heard from a friend before we could detect a company's registration information by paying for the HK government websites. After checking, I found that company's legal person and his ID Card Number, and he was a Chinese. The ID No. was found belong to Hunan.

    Then I called in the police station of that place and said I was now in Mumbai International Airport and picked up a wallet with cards, ID card as well as lots of cash inside, but no owner's contact information. I said the owner must be very worried as lost such an important thing in another country, so I asked them help me check whether there was a phone number in household registration information. Then, they gave me a phone number. That's great! I didn't make a phone call at once after getting the number; on the contrary, I was wondering how to recover my payment.

    Later, I dialed the number, and a woman answered the phone. I called her name directly and told her ID Number. I said I got her phone number from XX police station and they let me negotiate with you first. At first, she denied the payment and said she didn't know what happened clearly and she needed to have a check. I told her "I had got the bank slip and I could find you to get your bank statement. No matter whether you are innocent, anyway the money is in your account, if you don't return, I had to tell the police that we didn't negotiate successfully." After repeat negotiating, she returned the money back to the customer's account on the third day.

    Therefore, the payment that was considered impossible to take back just was returned.

    After reading the story, would you like to praise the ownership? Though the protagonist said he is luck, but I don't think so but it is wise. Actually, how many people in reality can use the way we often used to handle this problem? We just give up by hearing that it could not be returned and this is the reason why more and more hackers are bold to continue. Here are the summary of that case:

    1.We need regular following up during the collecting: check payment schedule, and ask the customers for the bank slip at first after they remitted. Our financial checks it from time to time.

    2.When there is something suspicious, try to search for clues from the stolen mailbox.

    3.Usually, hacker's collection is the same as us, which needs to provide credit information to the customer, so the information from the collection is more available.

    4.Demonstrate the search spirit of the foreign traders, and try to find out the hacker by using all means with available information. As the above case, check the hacker's registration information, you can check the company's legal person as long as it is the registered company no matter in Hong Kong or China. And also only the registered company has the right to open a company account in the bank.

    5.You can find the legal person by find his/her contact number. In addition to the method of the above case, you can also use the key way to find out the hacker's number. Do remember that there needs to leave a name, ID and contact number when doing things in China.

    When all material are well prepared, it is your showtime. If you meet such kind of situation, you should get your money back in this way.
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    你造福各位外贸网友啦!

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    学习学习,感谢阿连分享!

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    谢谢分享,加油!!!

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    碉堡啦

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    好机智~不错不错~

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    真碉堡了

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    谢谢分享,学习了

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    你造福各位外贸网友啦!

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    cool~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    用户被禁言,该主题自动屏蔽!

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    多谢LZ分享~学习来了!

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    做外贸的都是柯南、?!

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    故事很赞哦!学习了!

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    不是幸运,是机智

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    亲2012年的时候,您怎么不分享啊,说不定我也能向您学习找回货款!

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    很好的分享,除了运气,机智是很重要的,肯动脑,很多事情可以解决。

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    真机智啊

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    点个赞。。现实中,对于小金额的骗款,谁会有那么多精力去追回....

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    好机智!希望我们团结起来!



  • 外贸连
    被骗货款的事时时有,前段时间又有连粉发现邮箱被盗,所幸发现及时没有造成损失。也经常看到有朋友、网友说被盗的事,好像每次就以金额不多、追不回来、不知如何处理等为由就此放过黑客不了了之。前两天刚好看到一同行发的贴子,真真佩服,拿来借鉴一下,万一真碰上了,大家除了咬牙切齿之外,还有办法追回货款,不要再让骗子以为我们外贸人就是好欺负:

    故事说是在2012年,那时要出差去印度,PI给客户付款之后就让业务员催了一次,客户确认说汇了。大概距离客户汇款1周之后,业务员说还没有收到。按往常客户汇出到到账一般3-4天。于是我跟业务员说,跟客户要水单,让财务查下是不是信息有误入不了帐。就是这一查真的有问题。客户的钱是汇了,并且汇了一周,但不是我们的账户!

    马上和客户联系,客户说:你们自己发邮件给我,说之前的账户不能用,临时换了账号!客户还附了往来邮件,我们发现那些邮件确实是从业务员的邮箱发出,但是说话的习惯却不是业务员。再查业务员的邮箱,骗子发来的邮件地址和客户只有一个字母的差别!问题查出来了,一定是骗子攻破了业务员的邮箱,伪装成业务员和客户联系,改了PI信息。

    那晚我一夜没睡,反复看骗子的邮件,看改过的PI和汇款水单。开始的时候,我试着找出骗子的发件IP地址,查出来美国一个地址。准备第二天报警,但是最后证明那是一个代理服务器的虚拟IP,根本追不到骗子,失败了!

    然后我发现了个问题。骗子修改过PI上显示收款公司是一个香港注册的公司,收款银行是香港汇丰的账户。然后我给汇丰客服打电话,告诉客服汇丰的一个账号户名的骗了钱等等。客服说,如果我们有相关证据可以提交司法机构,走司法程序,只有法院有权利冻结客户账户里的资金。

    事情到这一步基本上意味着被骗成功了,但是我不死心。我记得以前听一个朋友说过,香港政府网站付费可以查出公司注册信息,这一查还真查出了注册这个收款公司的法人以及TA的身份证号码,发现是个中国人。身份证号码查出是在湖南某地。

    于是给某地的派出所打电话,我说我现在印度孟买国际机场捡到一只钱包,里面有卡、身份证和很多现金,但是没有失主的联系方式。我说失主肯定很着急,在他国丢了这么重要的东西,让派出所帮我查下失主的户籍登记信息里有没有电话号码。然后,他们果然报给我一串手机号码,太好了!知道号码之后,我没有马上打电话,我在想怎么让TA把钱拿回来。

    想了一番之后,我拨了那串号码,一个女人接了电话。接通后我直接叫她的名字,报她身份证号码。我说某某派出所给我你的号码,让我先给你打个电话协商。开始的时候她否认有这么笔钱,说到后来说自己不知道情况,需要查下。我说我有水单,我能找到你,就能拿到你的银行对账单。我不管你是不是无辜,反正钱在你账户里,如果你不还回来,我只好和派出所说我们协商不成功。反复磨,到第三天的时候她把钱退回了客户账户!

    至此,一笔被认为不可能拿回来的钱,就这么回来了。

    看完故事是不是很想为主人翁点赞,虽然主角说自己是幸运,但阿连觉得不是幸运,是机智。现实中我们有多少人能运用到我们经常用的方法去处理呢?只是都听别人说追不回来的就由此放弃的人不在少数,这也是为什么越来越多黑客这么如此大胆继续横行,阿连用这个案例总结一下:

    1、收款期间需要定时跟进:查款项的进度,客户汇款后需要第一时间问客户拿汇款水单。我方财务不定时查款式进度。

    2、如发现有可疑时,发挥你的柯南精神,尝试在被盗邮箱中寻找一点蛛丝马迹。

    3、一般黑客收款都是跟我们一样,需要提供收款信息给客户,从收款信息中得到资料更真实可用。

    4、发挥外贸人的搜索精神,把掌握到的资料利用一切方法把黑客的资料削出来,如文中:查黑客的注册信息,无论香港还是中国,只要是注册的公司就会查得到这家公司的法人。也只有是注册的公司才有权在银行开通公司帐户。阿连在工商局网站上剪的图:

    图片:图片1.jpg



    5、找到法人就是想办法找联系号码了,除了主人翁的方法,我们还可以用我们平时找关键人物的方法去找出黑客的号码。别忘了,在中国办事是很多地方都需要留姓名、身份证和联系号码的。

    所有资料齐全就得看你演帝般的表现了,同行们再有这种情况,我们就用这种方法让黑客把钱吐出来。

    外贸连
    There is always the case that the payment was cheated. A while ago a fan found his email was stolen, but fortunately they found in time, causing no losses. I also heard that some friends or netizens were stolen but unluckily let hackers go away every time as the reasons like the amount is small, hard to get it back or do not understand how to deal with it etc. Just two days ago, I read an article by a colleague which was impressive. So we can learn from it in this case we can get the payment back, and we can not be cheated by such liars.

    In 2012, at that time on a business trip to India, the salesman pushed the customer to give the deposit after I sent PI to the customer and the customer confirmed that he had remitted. About a week after the remittance, the salesman said we hadn't received the deposit. Historically, it takes 3-4 days from the remittances to the account. Then I asked the salesman to ask the customer for the bank receipt, and let the financial check whether the information is incorrect. There was really some problems after checking. The customer had remitted for a week, but it's not our account!

    We connected with the customer at once, and he said, "You sent me an email, saying that the account can't use and temporary changed another account." The customer also enclosed the emails exchange between himself and the "salesman", and we found those emails indeed sent from the salesman but the speaking habit was different from the salesman. Then we checked the salesman's mailbox and found that the email address was only one letter different from the cheater's. The problem had been identified that the cheater hacked the salesman's mailbox and then disguised as a salesman to connect with the customer and revised the PI.

    That night I was up all night and re-read the cheater's email, the revised PI and the Bank slip many times. At the beginning, I tried to find out the IP of the cheater and it was an IP from the U.S.A. I prepared to call the police next day but at last it was proved that it was a virtual IP of proxy serve, which could not chase the cheater. It failed!

    Then I found out that the collecting company on the revised PI was the company registered in Hong Kong, and the collecting bank is HSBC account in HK. Then I called HSBC customer service, and told I was cheated by an HSBC account. But the service said if we had the evidence to submit the judiciary, we could be on the judicial procedure, and only the court had the right to freeze the customers'account.

    It basically meant I was cheated successfully, but I didn't lose heart. I heard from a friend before we could detect a company's registration information by paying for the HK government websites. After checking, I found that company's legal person and his ID Card Number, and he was a Chinese. The ID No. was found belong to Hunan.

    Then I called in the police station of that place and said I was now in Mumbai International Airport and picked up a wallet with cards, ID card as well as lots of cash inside, but no owner's contact information. I said the owner must be very worried as lost such an important thing in another country, so I asked them help me check whether there was a phone number in household registration information. Then, they gave me a phone number. That's great! I didn't make a phone call at once after getting the number; on the contrary, I was wondering how to recover my payment.

    Later, I dialed the number, and a woman answered the phone. I called her name directly and told her ID Number. I said I got her phone number from XX police station and they let me negotiate with you first. At first, she denied the payment and said she didn't know what happened clearly and she needed to have a check. I told her "I had got the bank slip and I could find you to get your bank statement. No matter whether you are innocent, anyway the money is in your account, if you don't return, I had to tell the police that we didn't negotiate successfully." After repeat negotiating, she returned the money back to the customer's account on the third day.

    Therefore, the payment that was considered impossible to take back just was returned.

    After reading the story, would you like to praise the ownership? Though the protagonist said he is luck, but I don't think so but it is wise. Actually, how many people in reality can use the way we often used to handle this problem? We just give up by hearing that it could not be returned and this is the reason why more and more hackers are bold to continue. Here are the summary of that case:

    1.We need regular following up during the collecting: check payment schedule, and ask the customers for the bank slip at first after they remitted. Our financial checks it from time to time.

    2.When there is something suspicious, try to search for clues from the stolen mailbox.

    3.Usually, hacker's collection is the same as us, which needs to provide credit information to the customer, so the information from the collection is more available.

    4.Demonstrate the search spirit of the foreign traders, and try to find out the hacker by using all means with available information. As the above case, check the hacker's registration information, you can check the company's legal person as long as it is the registered company no matter in Hong Kong or China. And also only the registered company has the right to open a company account in the bank.

    5.You can find the legal person by find his/her contact number. In addition to the method of the above case, you can also use the key way to find out the hacker's number. Do remember that there needs to leave a name, ID and contact number when doing things in China.

    When all material are well prepared, it is your showtime. If you meet such kind of situation, you should get your money back in this way.
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